Monday, 10 December 2012
Over Camus and "The Stranger" - Entering the literary debate of early, the contrib. to Intellectuality
"The Killer of Friend" - Over "The Stranger" further and apart from "Perfect Strangers / Perfect Lovers" ( / = slash )
"The Killer of Friend" is to be a lasting reference for me over "The Stranger" by Camus of France/Algerie. Indeed, by "The Stranger" I leave no doubt in saying that to kill a friend is to kill the concept of friend!! This seems to be a hard statement AND IT IS! To pay respect to proper sentiments is TO PRESERVE THEM!
The former message to "The Stranger"/"The Outsider" by Camus has been:
Perfect Stranger as performed by Deep Purple
Can you remember remember my name
As I flow through your life
A thousand oceans I have flown - Alt. "A thousand notions - I have flow (psychological and note on Christian cross of "t" by notions with connector as separator.)
And cold spirits of ice
All my life
I am the echo of your past
I am returning the echo of a point in time Distant faces shine
A thousand warriors I have known
And laughing as the spirits appear
All your life Shadows of another day
And if you hear me talking on the wind
You've got to understand
We must remain Perfect Strangers
I know I must remain inside this silent well of sorrow
A strand of silver hanging through the sky
Touching more than you see
The voice of ages in your mind
Is aching with the dead of the night
Precious life (your tears are lost in falling rain)
And if you hear me talking on the wind
You've got to understand
We must remain Perfect Strangers
The text anew with background (over "Perfect Strangers" and strangling The Stranger of Camus to death):
Can you remember - the memory of action, the memory of exactly this "lost" friend.
Remember my name - the lost friend talking to you, killer of "friend".
As i flow through your life - as the lost friend "flow" through your life, i.e., your memories as you die, day by day, or exactly now.
A thousand oceans i have flown - that the mystery of origin of /intelligence/ and humanity has a huge depth.
And cold spirits of ice - the spirits of deep logics, their rights to life, intuitively, their nature of cleanliness, and that they may be watching your pathetic self, you the killer of "friend"
All my life - all the life of a human being with human worth, i.e., the human rights I am the echo of your past - you will hear from your killed friend, your crimes will be known this way or that I am returning the echo of a point in time - the friend of killing is of this unknown nature, reiteration
Distant faces shine - distant faces of dignity and happiness shine, not where you are, killer of "friend", but their presence and nature of mystery find their own places in universe, despite a pathetic little soul like that of yours
A thousand warriors I have known (Sun Tzu and his Terracotta and the Japanese classic, Hagakure, if not the tank equipment and other funny remarks, growing up during cold war and so forth!)
Additional background material by Perfect Lovers / Perfect Strangers, having already won the discussion in France "a while ago":All of this goes to Camus' book of "The Stranger". This must be perfectly clear!
1. "I understand I must remain in this well of sorrow - to "you" as this person, as I speak to the insane, unable to understand humanity and consequently *demands* the well of sorrow /on other people/!- to the killer of "friend"!
2. "remain perfect strangers" - the relation between the person who rejected people and those who cherish life- the chasm between these two groups of people!- This is a wording that intermediates the written discussion, subduing the violences and other conflicts of life.
Given a slightly faulty memory, I have some restraint, but there is a suspicion of mine that there's a killer's signature in the middle of the book of Camus' "The Stranger" (according to police's standards). You need to read it carefully in order to detect ito r even recheck throughout the book in order to connect some information.
There's another peculiar thing about "removing" a friend who is "downward"/"on a downward trend" and it has to do with qualifying this "downward trend" of friend. I suspect they are retreating more and more from life as "everything" becomes weakness and only they maintain "a proper butcher's knife" for the real life to obtain!
I think I'm also entitled to claim that the song was produced in Kvinesdal, a neighbouring "kommune" to Farsund, because the song demanded specifics for it to be performed properly, probably implying more fame as well!
Lyrics found with the help from Lyricsfreak by http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/deep+purple/perfect+strangers_20038780.html .
Over "The Stranger" by Camus (as in English): I've now been looking over the text of Camus, 76/77, including a word on the author himself. The text is clearly about one part "in real life" and one part in being a prison inmate for a crime. The text also carries two rather unpleasant stories over "an old boy", what I take to be a teen-ager above 15, and a story over a dog that is /forced/ to attack another dog, i.e., the dog eats dog part of real life insofar... Well, well, no clear killer signature as such from the author's mentality himself. This holds no significance either. And on the contrary, given the background of Algerie (of poverty then, most certainly), he should be left the room to sympathise with communism "for France to come down, and for Algerie to rise respectfully". Clearly, my Ad Hominems must go, as they also have NO place in common history over him as person. Also, and sympatically enough, over life matters, he describes a "Home" what can also go for the very control over every individual and the denial of general freedom for people. Not becoming any better now as we are 7,1 Bn people (7.1 US Eng.). So this is where I stand, then rather /the/ attack on general stupidity everywhere in the World with ((Perfect Lovers Slash) Perfect Strangers performed by Deep Purple, and Oceans (of Time, i.e., the Buddhistic theories of many people destinies
before my own person) rather than "Notions"!
I'd also say this further:
There has been Alt. "A thousand notions - I have flow (psychological and note on Christian cross of "t" by notions with connector as separator.)
and that Deep Purple's solution has been to produce 2 versions while I could have seen an alternation song and these 2 or just one of them. Good?
Out of this, some people, mostly psychologists, started to get interested in people's "brain flows" and for good, I think, that you can compare the "brain flows" between schizophrenics and healthy people for example, another possible avenue as "indicator for diagnostication" and research.
The "flow" point may prove an additional point against (irrational) The Stranger by Camus under the hypothesis that the person has tendencies toward schizophrenia or "outward", but outside mental pathology, i.e., with no need for hospital care.
(More to come!)
Also, as I am the name-holder of mSomatism!
It takes the reading of Camus' book for understanding to obtain! You get it, please?
Note: First made a note to Facebook on Monday, 19 November 2012 at 12:06 CET.
Note2: Lyrics found with the help from Lyricsfreak by http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/deep+purple/perfect+strangers_20038780.html .
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Given a slightly faulty memory, I have some restraint, but there is a suspicion of mine that there's a killer's signature in the middle of the book of Camus' "The Stranger" (according to police's standards). You need to read it carefully in order to detect ito r even recheck throughout the book in order to connect some information. You bother to check to, please?
ReplyDeleteA strand of silver - the path to through life, the path to origin, the path to purgatory, the path to God
ReplyDeletehanging through the sky - again, the strand is /set/ into reality, despite your intolerance
Touching more than you see - mystery of reality, not even today wholly explained
Precious life - the actual precious life, that you should consider more, Camus, in your after-life, the dignity of life itself
ReplyDeleteEntered into the main body, the blog posting itself.
ReplyDeleteNow updated and Ad Hominems removed. My mistakes! My apologies to go! Sorry!
ReplyDeleteAlso for comments. Zero left. As duty should imply.
ReplyDeleteTo counter the "old boy" notions as attacks against people of ethics/intelligence, I ask you to consider "imbecile" and "infantile" and that there are certain schizophrenics who can't stop asking stupidly "what is it?" repeatedly or displaying that childish behaviour of not acting properly, standing withdrawn and drooling... Almost as if lightning struck... Of course, there are the notions of attack vs. defence and who has the best of mind... Well, well, the discussion is to continue, but being a fault with knowledge is definitely no good!
ReplyDeleteAlso schizophrenics fascination with retardedness!
ReplyDeleteOther than that, also of former, The Crash of 1996 by David Cronenberg.
ReplyDeleteI once (1990?) wrote to two NATO HQ sites with an idea I perceived to be of gravest importance: The idea was a scientific experiment where these people "of flies" would gather on an island to fight for becoming the leader, the Master. These people have special mind-sets of just becoming this Master and have little ethics (education/intuitions) to care for while fighting to achieve this position. Psychologists then, consequently, have a mere confirmation before in closing the experiment, is my hypothesis.
ReplyDeleteThey are also of such nature that there is a secret worshipping of something so small as to hold it between two hands above one's head (*not* a newborn child at 3 - 5 kgs or so).
These people, consequently, should be more studied and _steady changes_ to both the science of mind and society should be the result!
According to Stanley Milgram's Prison Experiment and standards for conducting an experiment with human beings, all ethical considerations well taken care of, it is: Group out to the island [and time] and group off the island and evaluation. There is a whole lot more to do for carrying it through properly, but basically this is the way the serious experiment happens.
Otherwise and for real, predicted outcome: Zero people and with resources of food and drink remaining.
The "military" movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100054/ .
Lord of the Flies (1990)
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Now that I hold the mSomatism, I stand over it in triumph!
To the Perfect Lovers Slash Perfect Strangers, I'd say this:
ReplyDeleteThere has been Alt. "A thousand notions - I have flow (psychological and note on Christian cross of "t" by notions with connector as separator.)
and that Deep Purple's solution has been to produce 2 versions while I could have seen an alternation song and these 2 or just one of them. Good?
Out of this, some people, mostly psychologists, started to get interested in people's "brain flows" and for good, I think, that you can compare the "brain flows" between schizophrenics and healthy people for example, another possible avenue as "indicator for diagnostication" and research.
The "flow" point may prove an additional point against (irrational) The Stranger by Camus under the hypothesis that the person has tendencies toward schizophrenia or "outward", but outside mental pathology, i.e., with no need for hospital care.
I've informed France by writing to "Universit̩ Paris-Sorbonne РLettres et civilisations" and "Le Monde diplomatique in English" and that it is the responsibility of this nation's elite to finish this in style with its duties to go, aligning this with such as demanding admissions from Turkey over genocide of Armenians, that this is about civilisation, summa summarum!
ReplyDeleteBy this text,
"and to The Stranger by Camus, we have a Grand Ile Fant right here, an architect /only/ designing Washington", "George Washington (a 33° Freemason) selected French Freemason Pierre Charles L’Enfant to design the city’s layout in Washington D.C.", it becomes clear,
that, as message from USA, that France should commit itself to the removal of delinquencies in order to reclaim the Holy Book or Holy Books (plural).
As you'll see in the following, this entails sophistication by flow-psychology and more. Before this starts, I wish you "Good luck!"
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As it has played out (and for a talented writer to prove oneself (also as "soul") worthy of in continuing it as intellectual corpus):
Over Camus and "The Stranger" - Entering the literary debate of early, the contrib. to Intellectuality
(...)
This text as message to France ends like this (for now), after partial life by electronic imprisonment, by criminal implants put there by lunatic doctors and others...:
ReplyDeleteTo the Perfect Lovers Slash Perfect Strangers, I'd say this:
There has been Alt. "A thousand notions - I have flow (psychological and note on Christian cross of "t" by notions with connector as separator.)
and that Deep Purple's solution has been to produce 2 versions while I could have seen an alternation song and these 2 or just one of them. Good?
Out of this, some people, mostly psychologists, started to get interested in people's "brain flows" and for good, I think, that you can compare the "brain flows" between schizophrenics and healthy people for example, another possible avenue as "indicator for diagnostication" and research.
The "flow" point may prove an additional point against (irrational) The Stranger by Camus under the hypothesis that the person has tendencies toward schizophrenia or "outward", but outside mental pathology, i.e., with no need for hospital care.
Key words are: Albert Camus, composition, concept of friend, Europe, intellectual debate, literary debate, music, Perfect Lovers slash Perfect Strangers, Perfect Strangers, The Stranger
PS: As I expect this to become an internal French matter and, explicitly (also as declaration), I have no part.
Further to the matters of Camus and The Stranger ("The Aparte" of mind). How can the /normative/ view on the carnivore human being be so correct if they (the proponents) are to be lying some of the time, irresponsible some of the time, fail to account for properly for laws and regulations, for ethics, to account for telepathy (Bem of USA, Ivy League), the soul (Van Lommel), other aspects of nature.
ReplyDeleteWhy are we to accept all these failures from them and yet accept that the /normative/ nature of the human being as carnivores is the correct one? I OBJECT! And also, I CLAIM *THEY* ARE WRONG! That this, ultimately, speaks against the very intelligence itself!
Note: its important here to separate between /description/ of a type of carnivore human being that I /don't/ object too and a type of explanation of the human being (the normative) that's supposed to describe who we /all/ as human beings, we really are, that this last notion/conception that I (strongly) object too!
Note2: you have given Camus "life" so to speak. And that this concerns also the serious approach to matters of intelligence that I directly issue by this as well, in laying down two parallels, the IQ testing itself and a kind of adversity to human intelligence by correlation on the 2nd, and this last is your key "thing", that this /is you/, the French Mensa and deepest European sentiment on more than one sense.
Further to the matters of Camus and The Stranger ("The Aparte" of mind). How can the normative view on the carnivore human being be so correct if they (the proponents) are to be lying some of the time, irresponsible some of the time, fail to account, properly, for laws and regulations, for ethics, to account for telepathy (Bem of USA, Ivy League), the soul (Van Lommel), other aspects of nature?
ReplyDeleteWhy are we to accept all these failures from them and yet accept that the normative nature of the human being as carnivores is the correct one? I OBJECT! And also, I CLAIM THEY ARE WRONG! That this, ultimately, speaks against the very intelligence itself!
Note: its important here to separate between description of a type of carnivore human being that I don't object too and a type of explanation of the human being (the normative) that's supposed to describe who we all as human beings are, who we really are, and that it is this last notion/conception that I (strongly) object to!
Note2: you have given Camus "life" so to speak. And that this concerns also the serious approach to matters of intelligence that I directly issue by this as well, in laying down two parallels, the IQ testing itself and a kind of adversity to human intelligence by correlation on the 2nd, and this last is your key "thing", that this is you, the French Mensa and deepest European sentiment on more than one of the strings of the senses.
(I'm sorry for the original mistakes in this text. I beg your pardon. All should read out as first intended now.)
In the moment of writing this, I've become very optimistic, very inspired, and considering the possible impact of this line of thinking, I've just formulated something very quickly and dropped the messages pro-actively, without much thought, because this is only a short message meant to inspire a much more enduring undertaking, one that may set the World onto a seriously ascending trend in the most profound, humanistic way!
ReplyDeleteUnder John Milton and his Grapes of Wrath and under ILO too, by HES:
ReplyDeletethat I've suggested a kind of tenting + fans (to Facebook and a bit of telepathy here and there) for improving the working conditions for exactly the most difficult group of workers, the seasonal workers on the fields. (They have commonly been associated with slavery up through the history, but now organised by labour organisations, by recommendation.)
Cool?
(That tenting can also be fitted with pipes and more, even lighting, litium lighting for making fruit grow the same, different sorts of plastic, from white to blank, thickness this/that. The pipes are to control rain through holes in the tenting, metal scaffolding, cabled to the ground in case of (strong) winds.)
My middle name may be that of the Social Politics under the Political Science, with 5 new nomothetical laws to go, "Democracy is the best for humanity", etc., NOT the Social Work(er), even though it demands respect as usual, being one fine part of society along with the rest, education of nurses/teachers/police troopers and more.
ILO (International Labour Organisation, under UN too) is a former Peace Prize Winner!
ReplyDeletewww.nobel.se
www.nobel.se/peace (?) ;-)
Sorry. That's an error on me: "The Grapes of Wrath is an American realist novel written by John Steinbeck and published in 1939. For it he won the annual National Book Award[1] and Pulitzer Prize[2] for novels and it was cited prominently when he won the Nobel Prize in 1962.[3]"
ReplyDeleteJohn Milton has "The Paradise Lost" and others.
Family, Monarchy and France
ReplyDelete"What?! Another one? Nooooooo!"
French discussion for the next 100 years? Either way, I sense the discussion will endure for many more years, more than 100 or less than 100 years.
Beware. This discussion has deep roots in the French society and is explicitly outside those who are unwilling to make the library research and with the intelligence to make decent contributions!
The "Message to France" is:
"Now that the princple of Family for bringing up children to become decent has been proven by psychology/medicine and other, non-corrupt human beings, in line with the best ethics, if France insists, I say France needs to reinstate Monarchy, "also under Pierre Duhem"! Any good? Sixth Revolution? Remember the latin for six (sex).
However, and against, I remember well the unpopular: "If you can't make bread, why don't you have cake instead?"
Enjoy! :-)
Note: I have successfully "attacked" French notions of "the best", by proving a corrupt mind, and defended P. Duhem and Christianity.
Note2: The header is from a title of a US film as well as "Arts, Guns and Automobiles", that removes the DeChamp "artwork", also seen much in New York."
That I'd like to know how the intellectual battles take place over there. I can imagine you/the French have a lot of fun!
As with former, pro-France text, exclusively, I'm not a party to this one either, although a friendly wink, this notice only one.
Under John Steinbeck and ILO spirits, along with the suppliers to agricultural industry:
ReplyDelete"Robotics [sensitive picking hand and cutter hand, 2] and good uses of greenhouses are now the most serious solution to all or most agriculture. There is no doubt that machine supported agriculture represents the future, a high degree up to fully automatic."
- From engineers around the Planet.
Cheers!
(Below this text comes the secondary option of preserving workforce and setting up "tenting" with metal-scaffolding, wind-protective-grounding, etc. You to choose.)
Additional Considerations to the "Perfect Lovers Slash Perfect Strangers", also known as "Perfect Strangers" by Deep Purple.
ReplyDeleteUnder John Lennon's Imagine still, a sharing of story between two friends occur, of the dangers of the World and how to solve them, specifically the ones described by "The Stranger" by Camus. At the time of writing this could have been under "Hey Jude", Beatles, too, but this reference has been beyond me at the time.
The story we speak of is a loose version of the text to follow, Perfect Lovers / Perfect Strangers (not homosexual here, but rather in the sense of two male friends who may happen to double-date time and again, i.e., perfect lovers). With notions of "flow psychology", not entirely described as flow psychology at the time and feeling a great rush of history reading, "of flying on oceans of time", I write:
[No room (for them)/"instant"] Full organs, The Stranger isn't the Bible. Full guitars blow! [Maximum power.]
The text without the vocalisation of the above, but there by assumptions.
The text,
[Text, ending with vocal "end-signature": Perfect lovers slash perfect strangers]
After text, it should be noted that as a friend to friend "trick", in finding a friend to stay with, one is asked to consider "Perfect Lovers slash Perfect Strangers" as a slider that one seeks to improve, at least as a matter between one self and the other person.
"Go!" ("The Stranger" no more?)
A note on psychology, with "Don't talk to strangers", Karl Marx forgets that estrangement from the means of production, fails the higher target of ensuring non-estrangement of human kind, that McCarthyism in ousting communism succeeds in three, 3, targets, the human rights, the democracy and the psychology to go, human being to human being. It's complex to be find the best line for human beings and the story of the human being, from Homo Erectus to Homo Sapiens extend some 200 000 years by loose memory. Check yourself, please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ_kez7WVUU .
Marked by Christianity, McCarthyism wins through: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy , USA withholding both Religion and personal weaponry while ousting Communism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_being .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stranger_(novel) .
Extra to the lyrics and for perfection: "Cold spirits of ice" can be reformulated into "Cold judgment - Spirits of Ice"... "With my approval too, probably closer than most to it..."
From the Puppet-Master of a Puppet Theatre (as much as vaudeville and Ibsen)
ReplyDeleteFinal for The Stranger:
The Puppet-Master hides behind the "Grand Ile Fant"-mask which can be shifted into a shooting target with the word, "execration", from (EN vers.) p. 76, on it for the friend of a pimp, "without an intuition"! End of story.
The rest in terms of deep slumber for remainder of history is therefore achieved eternally for The Stranger. RIP.
Eliezer "Elie" Wiesel and "Ignorance"/"Indifference" [make proper reference] matches perfectly with the last words of the book by Camus as this absurd person celebrates "the universe of indifference" in being a cold-blooded murderer. The Stranger (to Humanity?), p. 76. Wiesel, Nobel Peace Prize, 1986.
ReplyDelete(This is shortly put for now.)