What is the moral negative value on each and every instance, starting with the mildest level, the water-boarding (gosh, that is so evil!) equivalents, including hanging a person slowly, until unconscious, again and again, until death, this also concerns the sex-games of lunatics ending in the murder of unkowing, innocent people and ALL in reality count!!!?
They say there is no torture, but for real, torture and fear is everywhere!!!
Go ahead and see if you can ignore it?
Can we have the "quants" in too so as to present a credible number?! In order to quantify the negative moral value of torture toward the larger picture of World morality...