I see no opportunity for Red parties to hold on to the Socialism or the Socialist-Red (please, remember Nazi-Socialism). Their next move should be to declare themselves Purple and turn to Centrist politics.
It is the Socialists and Communists who are known to cause genocides. They have been quick to say "common good" without defining the Ethics and living the morality for it! We do have a tax-system (VAT and income tax etc.) that is meant to pay for public services. We have indeed the Democracy to provide the sensitivity for decision-making and I do not see how their insistence on "social justice" is supposed to be so right without the very justice itself. Is then the constant citation of social justice just an excuse for furthering the attack on humanity?
Mao Zedong, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, whether Stalinism or Ukraine "mass death". You should know what I mean, what I imply and that lying publicly is going to be much harder in the time to come! Especially when facing the lawful scrutiny! Reds, be gone!
Ukraine and the genocide by rulers of Soviet Union: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor.
The Israeli parties have been divided for a while already by blue, blueish and purple colours. Indeed, they have been the first in the World to "abolish" the Red side of politics. Check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Israel.
Of the colour red, see also The Masque of the Red Death (The Terror of the Red Mask) and State-terror in France. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Masque_of_the_Red_Death by Edgar Allan Poe.
Atheist North Korea seems to be no bragging post either.
Red or not, not really religious people as such, I believe, committing sadism as part of genocide, the genocide of the Armenians by the Ottoman empire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_of_Union_and_Progress. At least there was dictatorship by ideals of Germany and Japan.
Either way, my opinion is here for you to read!
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Friday, 23 September 2011
Today's Issues on the Palestine-Israel Conflict
Newest: The Roadmap to Peace by the Quartet. Where are we (in a plan to lasting peace)? For how long lasts the conflict more (even as estimate) until the final, predictable steps? Land-lease in Palestine by Israel on the Hong Kong accords, Britain to China, i.e., Israel paying Palestine a sum of money each year until land returns to Palestine after some 200 years or other?
Url.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_map_for_peace .
(Y-design of information is erased.)
To solve the stalemate of maps describing Palestine and Israel, here's one suggestion:
As the (most) subverting party should be known as Israel, I hope the Palestinians and UN body/the Quartet together make the move to create a (temporary) reasonable map in partnership, also with several options such as one including this and another including not so much, one being more likely to obtain agreement, the others for display (with description of history/reasoning and legend)!
It should also be known that Israel in the past has rejected NATO membership by an ethical grounding.
(The other comments are to appear here on a row from most recent to most old.)
This blogposting has started like this, now solved by the Quartet and initiative by former French president Sarkozy: The dangerous path toward a possible nuclear strike on Israel in some distant future.
Poverty of Palestinians vs. the status now of these other 3. Why are Palestinians so dangerous, such an existential threat (almost as if the appetite for perversion would need other ways with ending the conflict)? So what is it going to be, you?
More conventionally:
First, if at all, the Palestinians need to get filthy rich just to load that "anti-Israeli nuclear device" onboard (and they are way behind the other 3 countries of relevance, Egypt, Lebanon and Syria). Then, in a state of democracy and thriving business life and vibrant business connections, they, the Palestinians, are supposed to let go of evey civilised advance, possibly over 50 years from now, just to destroy Israel! Plausible? No!!! No, the Palestinians are not those cold, idiotic, senseless, crazy morons! And they don't differ much from these other 3 countries which have far greater liberties for loading aboard this "anti-Israel nuclear device".
Dear Israelis, say "yes to life", please! Pleeeeaaaaaase! (Probably a wanton from most of the World population)
(A nuclear arms issue has been discussed to some extent. But with plausibility and no reality toward any use "against Israel".)
Note: Please read all three blogposts for the Israeli-Palestine conflict, that has lasted for more than 50 years or so.
Url.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_map_for_peace .
(Y-design of information is erased.)
To solve the stalemate of maps describing Palestine and Israel, here's one suggestion:
As the (most) subverting party should be known as Israel, I hope the Palestinians and UN body/the Quartet together make the move to create a (temporary) reasonable map in partnership, also with several options such as one including this and another including not so much, one being more likely to obtain agreement, the others for display (with description of history/reasoning and legend)!
It should also be known that Israel in the past has rejected NATO membership by an ethical grounding.
(The other comments are to appear here on a row from most recent to most old.)
Poverty of Palestinians vs. the status now of these other 3. Why are Palestinians so dangerous, such an existential threat (almost as if the appetite for perversion would need other ways with ending the conflict)? So what is it going to be, you?
More conventionally:
First, if at all, the Palestinians need to get filthy rich just to load that "anti-Israeli nuclear device" onboard (and they are way behind the other 3 countries of relevance, Egypt, Lebanon and Syria). Then, in a state of democracy and thriving business life and vibrant business connections, they, the Palestinians, are supposed to let go of evey civilised advance, possibly over 50 years from now, just to destroy Israel! Plausible? No!!! No, the Palestinians are not those cold, idiotic, senseless, crazy morons! And they don't differ much from these other 3 countries which have far greater liberties for loading aboard this "anti-Israel nuclear device".
Dear Israelis, say "yes to life", please! Pleeeeaaaaaase! (Probably a wanton from most of the World population)
(A nuclear arms issue has been discussed to some extent. But with plausibility and no reality toward any use "against Israel".)
Note: Please read all three blogposts for the Israeli-Palestine conflict, that has lasted for more than 50 years or so.
Wednesday, 21 September 2011
Logical Set-Up for a Pro-Palestinian Position
The logics as argument follows:
1. Israel has been followed in the past with negative results
2. Palestine* has not been followed (for positive results)
3. Palestine* has a suggestion to be followed or not (for positive results)
0.----------------------------------------------------
4. Israel must not be followed
5. Palestine* must be followed
0.----------------------------------------------------
6. One follows the Palestine* suggestion
Universe of Discourse, UD: Israelis, Palestinians, Results (and I guess the rest of the World)
I: Israelis
P: Palestinians
R: Results
Symbolic expression, under SD+:
1. | I -> ~R -----------------------------------A (Assumption)
2. | (~P -> ~R) V (P -> R) -------------------A
3. | ~(~P -> ~R) ------------------------------A
0. |----------------------------------------------------
4. | | ~P -> ~R --------------------------------A
0. | |----------------------------------------------------
5. | | ~(~P -> ~R) ----------------------------3 R
6. | | ~P -> ~R -------------------------------4 R
7. | ~(~P -> ~R) -----------------------------4-6 ~E (also ending injection, one step down again)
8. | (~P -> ~R) V (P -> R) -------------------2 R
9. | ~(~P -> ~R) -----------------------------7 R
0. |----------------------------------------------------
10.| P -> R ----------------------------------8-9 DS (Disjunctive Syllogism)
Sub-argument:
1. P -> R
2. P
0.-----------------------
3. P R (_R_eiteration)
0.-----------------------
4. R Condiitonal elimination
Palestine* is not Palestine yet, it's just a short for its people!
(I'm sorry for this, smarta**es, but you have been severely wrong here to make certain assumptions about this line that's now removed!!!)
1. Israel has been followed in the past with negative results
2. Palestine* has not been followed (for positive results)
3. Palestine* has a suggestion to be followed or not (for positive results)
0.----------------------------------------------------
4. Israel must not be followed
5. Palestine* must be followed
0.----------------------------------------------------
6. One follows the Palestine* suggestion
Universe of Discourse, UD: Israelis, Palestinians, Results (and I guess the rest of the World)
I: Israelis
P: Palestinians
R: Results
Symbolic expression, under SD+:
1. | I -> ~R -----------------------------------A (Assumption)
2. | (~P -> ~R) V (P -> R) -------------------A
3. | ~(~P -> ~R) ------------------------------A
0. |----------------------------------------------------
4. | | ~P -> ~R --------------------------------A
0. | |----------------------------------------------------
5. | | ~(~P -> ~R) ----------------------------3 R
6. | | ~P -> ~R -------------------------------4 R
7. | ~(~P -> ~R) -----------------------------4-6 ~E (also ending injection, one step down again)
8. | (~P -> ~R) V (P -> R) -------------------2 R
9. | ~(~P -> ~R) -----------------------------7 R
0. |----------------------------------------------------
10.| P -> R ----------------------------------8-9 DS (Disjunctive Syllogism)
Sub-argument:
1. P -> R
2. P
0.-----------------------
3. P R (_R_eiteration)
0.-----------------------
4. R Condiitonal elimination
Palestine* is not Palestine yet, it's just a short for its people!
(I'm sorry for this, smarta**es, but you have been severely wrong here to make certain assumptions about this line that's now removed!!!)
Monday, 12 September 2011
The Work to End the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
The Israel-Palestine conflict - Seeking to solve it!
Various! Written by Terje Lea 2010-12-31 13:24:49 [on blog.t-lea.net]
I've written this writing (in Norwegian) to the Committee of Palestine, a Norwegian
committee, I believe, 02:44 AM (night...), Tue 16. Nov.
The writing basically consists in this:
* Why isn't the UN and the EU (among others) on the spot/in the area
with their own, coordinated, observers and work-groups (engineers and
leaders/organisers) on both the Gaza-strip and the West Bank?
[Edit, Unsp.:]
* (Loosely with/by unrealist42:) The observers should use the latest technology in their mission, possibly web-cams for observing the check-points! unrealist42 suggests the use of web-cams for monitoring the check-points directly to the internet by full publicity. This may be too radical, but a moderated use by the observers can be a valuable contribution! Indeed, the latest technology should be applied as in all other (modern) countries so that Palestine can enter contemporary standards on all fronts, including industry! [End of edit.]
* There should be an updated map for the areas of conflict where (as on
the Google maps) one can find check-points, surveillance cameras,
the Wall, the settlements, special conflict-zones, operating UN/EU/others'
activities and all other activity (like "finally" imported goods to the Palestine
areas)!
* I also think there should be a COMMON web-portal for this conflict that is leaded
by UN (in the same fashion as WWF's web-presence). Here I suggest that all activities, in progress and in planning, are being presented/communicated. One should also emphasise the importance of transparency (no side "fools"/"undermines" the other).
* One may also have a money-effort surveillance page under this common portal that displays the actual effort (and direction) to the Palestine areas (and in the long run seriously undermines any hidden support for the tunnels into the Gaza-strip).
* One may also have a "tally" count on the number of people involved and what they do!
* I may come to add more points as we go, but I must say that I think the quality of the "engineering" work for ending this conflict could have been far better and had a better progression! I hope this improves in the immediate future!
[Edit, as extra compared to the email:]
* An addition to this writing on this forum: It should be a standing requirement that the representatives for Palestine accept Israel as a Jewish state on EQUAL footing as Palestine probably announces itself/looks upon itself as a Muslim state (i.e., the sound/massive support of Hamas, a rather (moderately/strongly) Islamic oriented political party). Poor people also tend to mind religious matters more strongly than fx. the affluent Europeans without this being a point, but rather a remark one can lend one's eye to.
* Also, I think the Israeli rhetoric has improved greatly for the last month or so. Though, it's seen as quite provoking that they push on these settlements to this degree.
* One report I've read, says that Israelis choose the settlements mostly for economic reasons and it should be possible to change this incentive or at least highlight it.
* (Loosely by Typist:) The world should support both Israel and Palestine as equal/symmetric states. Hopefully spurring both nations into prosperous, peaceful economic cycles of partnership, cooperation and to the service and benefit from and to the world.
[Edit, 17.11.2010:]
* In relation to the conflict (I-P), I'm also interested in the status of the Palestinian airport and the arrangement for Palestinians to communicate with one another between the Gaza strip and the West Bank. I'd also like to know the routines for moving between these two areas (physically, as the areas are indeed physically apart).
* Communications do include phone connections, mobile and "regular", as well as internet. I'd also include the aspect of communications from the Palestinian areas and to the world at large!
* It must be pointed out that despite the long coast line of the Gaza strip, the Palestinians have no harbour whatsoever! Even the fishing vessels have come under fire or harassment from time to time. There is no problem in conceiving an Israeli administration of a Palestinian harbour during a period of transition!
* There should be no problem in incorporating these concerns into this web-portal if only as static reports or points. [End of edit.]
[Edit, 12.09.2011:]
* It needs to be a part of reporting that incidents and wounded and killed are included in the (web-)reports! Formerly, I've hoped that active policing (by the Police forces, Palestinian, internationally strengthened (by non-Israeli) or not and the mere presence of international observers (and set-ups as described above) would reduce incidents and wounded and killed (in direct connection to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, i.e., Israeli killing Palestinian or vice versa). [End of edit.]
[Edit, 12.12.2010:]
* It should be mentioned that as Israel is a perpetrator and that it is reluctant to acknowledge valid borders to Palestine, its victim, this may be pathological and the issue should therefore be openly demanded as a few countries already have recognised Palestine an own state. Thus the next point on my "list" for an underlying plan to highlight steps that are needed, is that Israel makes it clear what borders it recognises so that this "pathology" can be safely scrapped, which is most welcomed by the whole world, I assume.
* This website with this map should clearly mark the 1967-borders and the eventual contemporary borders Israel accepts today if any. [End of edit.]
(Sincerely yours,
Mr. Terje Lea)
[Edit, 16.11.2010:] A comment on the side, pertaining to the settlements. It's a fact that the Swiss have been
addressing the Israelis for making Palestine look like a Swiss cheese (a cheese, as we all know, is known for
for its "holes" (bubbles)). [End of edit.]
PS: Let's end this together! (Joke?)
PS2: Typist is a user at the Philosophy Now forum. This entire writing has first been written on this forum.
PS3: unrealist42 is a user over at http://www.philosophyforums.com.
PS4: This plan is updated today, 15.12.2010, despite my protest by not writing. However, don't interpret this as I'm beginning to write again (on my websites).
(From the original blog: http://www.angelfire.com/realm/t_daemon_lea/blogT/index.blog/1420534/the-israelpalestine-conflict-seeking-to-solve-it/.)
Original URL: http://blog.t-lea.net/#post97
2 further notes to the conflict:
1. note.
Note I side with Turkey over the verdict that "leaked copy of the United Nations report ... But the report also concludes that Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is legal - a move that has angered Turkey" because I think there's no convention (legal) or precedent for such a "legality" in international relations. On the other hand, I suspect "the Patient of Palestine" is suffering under "the Doctor, with split personality", overtly Israel and USA, and covertly, EU and Norway and Colombia shoved in by FDI (foreign direct investment, handler: USA) and "blackened Arab personality/corrupt money (sorry to suggest this). Solution: be aggressive on expressing frustration to friendly/charitable nations so that they can relay the political pressure, both media and diplomatic toward the _un_friendly nations! Good?
End of 1. note.
2. note.
On Israel and 900 new settlement-housing units planned in East Jerusalem: In light of the planning of 900 new housing units, I call for "cautious" sanctions against Israel on all sorts of signal products as Champagne and Parma-ham for their _consistent_ undermining of solutions with their neighbouring Palestinians. This should be discussed at UN. And even though this definite undermining of disciplinary reactions to Israel by USA takes place, I think the other nations are fully entitled to announce their dissatisfaction, thus _increasing_ global pressure against Israel for getting more serious in the conflict. The sanctions can be justified citing worldwide security concerns as incitement for conflict and the obvious idiot will to this incitement by the Israeli. This means that I hope these countries can come together and give these declarations against Israel despite the idiot vetoing by USA for making the full _other_ 6,5 - 7,0 Bn (Billion!) people heard and that _they_ (not USA) get to give this dearly welcomed voice to the Palestinians and their cause for a rightful state with some borders if not directly the 1967 borders to start with! Cheers!
This has also been posted United Nations Division for Palestinian Rights, http://www.facebook.com/UN.palestinianrights.
United Nations Division for Palestinian Rights
The Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People...
I'm sorry. The world population number on Wikip. said 7,4 Bn people. US Census says 6 937 326 780 _right now_!
Thus deducting some here and there making it 6,5 rather than 7 at any chance!
The Israelis should be well aware also of the possibility to build larger housing complexes and especially _taller_ so that NO people need to live on occupied territory/settlements obstructing peace with the Palestinians.
This comment of mine comes as reaction, slightly delayed, by the story brought by TV2 with "Publisert 04.04.2011 20.28", that is published on 04.04.2011.
The link: http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/utenriks/midtosten/israel-utvider-bosetning-paa-okkupert-land-3461347.html.
[Israel utvider bosetning på okkupert land]
End of 2. note.
Note: this is meant to continue until the conflict has ended. Thus, more is likely to be added!
Various! Written by Terje Lea 2010-12-31 13:24:49 [on blog.t-lea.net]
I've written this writing (in Norwegian) to the Committee of Palestine, a Norwegian
committee, I believe, 02:44 AM (night...), Tue 16. Nov.
The writing basically consists in this:
* Why isn't the UN and the EU (among others) on the spot/in the area
with their own, coordinated, observers and work-groups (engineers and
leaders/organisers) on both the Gaza-strip and the West Bank?
[Edit, Unsp.:]
* (Loosely with/by unrealist42:) The observers should use the latest technology in their mission, possibly web-cams for observing the check-points! unrealist42 suggests the use of web-cams for monitoring the check-points directly to the internet by full publicity. This may be too radical, but a moderated use by the observers can be a valuable contribution! Indeed, the latest technology should be applied as in all other (modern) countries so that Palestine can enter contemporary standards on all fronts, including industry! [End of edit.]
* There should be an updated map for the areas of conflict where (as on
the Google maps) one can find check-points, surveillance cameras,
the Wall, the settlements, special conflict-zones, operating UN/EU/others'
activities and all other activity (like "finally" imported goods to the Palestine
areas)!
* I also think there should be a COMMON web-portal for this conflict that is leaded
by UN (in the same fashion as WWF's web-presence). Here I suggest that all activities, in progress and in planning, are being presented/communicated. One should also emphasise the importance of transparency (no side "fools"/"undermines" the other).
* One may also have a money-effort surveillance page under this common portal that displays the actual effort (and direction) to the Palestine areas (and in the long run seriously undermines any hidden support for the tunnels into the Gaza-strip).
* One may also have a "tally" count on the number of people involved and what they do!
* I may come to add more points as we go, but I must say that I think the quality of the "engineering" work for ending this conflict could have been far better and had a better progression! I hope this improves in the immediate future!
[Edit, as extra compared to the email:]
* An addition to this writing on this forum: It should be a standing requirement that the representatives for Palestine accept Israel as a Jewish state on EQUAL footing as Palestine probably announces itself/looks upon itself as a Muslim state (i.e., the sound/massive support of Hamas, a rather (moderately/strongly) Islamic oriented political party). Poor people also tend to mind religious matters more strongly than fx. the affluent Europeans without this being a point, but rather a remark one can lend one's eye to.
* Also, I think the Israeli rhetoric has improved greatly for the last month or so. Though, it's seen as quite provoking that they push on these settlements to this degree.
* One report I've read, says that Israelis choose the settlements mostly for economic reasons and it should be possible to change this incentive or at least highlight it.
* (Loosely by Typist:) The world should support both Israel and Palestine as equal/symmetric states. Hopefully spurring both nations into prosperous, peaceful economic cycles of partnership, cooperation and to the service and benefit from and to the world.
[Edit, 17.11.2010:]
* In relation to the conflict (I-P), I'm also interested in the status of the Palestinian airport and the arrangement for Palestinians to communicate with one another between the Gaza strip and the West Bank. I'd also like to know the routines for moving between these two areas (physically, as the areas are indeed physically apart).
* Communications do include phone connections, mobile and "regular", as well as internet. I'd also include the aspect of communications from the Palestinian areas and to the world at large!
* It must be pointed out that despite the long coast line of the Gaza strip, the Palestinians have no harbour whatsoever! Even the fishing vessels have come under fire or harassment from time to time. There is no problem in conceiving an Israeli administration of a Palestinian harbour during a period of transition!
* There should be no problem in incorporating these concerns into this web-portal if only as static reports or points. [End of edit.]
[Edit, 12.09.2011:]
* It needs to be a part of reporting that incidents and wounded and killed are included in the (web-)reports! Formerly, I've hoped that active policing (by the Police forces, Palestinian, internationally strengthened (by non-Israeli) or not and the mere presence of international observers (and set-ups as described above) would reduce incidents and wounded and killed (in direct connection to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, i.e., Israeli killing Palestinian or vice versa). [End of edit.]
[Edit, 12.12.2010:]
* It should be mentioned that as Israel is a perpetrator and that it is reluctant to acknowledge valid borders to Palestine, its victim, this may be pathological and the issue should therefore be openly demanded as a few countries already have recognised Palestine an own state. Thus the next point on my "list" for an underlying plan to highlight steps that are needed, is that Israel makes it clear what borders it recognises so that this "pathology" can be safely scrapped, which is most welcomed by the whole world, I assume.
* This website with this map should clearly mark the 1967-borders and the eventual contemporary borders Israel accepts today if any. [End of edit.]
(Sincerely yours,
Mr. Terje Lea)
[Edit, 16.11.2010:] A comment on the side, pertaining to the settlements. It's a fact that the Swiss have been
addressing the Israelis for making Palestine look like a Swiss cheese (a cheese, as we all know, is known for
for its "holes" (bubbles)). [End of edit.]
PS: Let's end this together! (Joke?)
PS2: Typist is a user at the Philosophy Now forum. This entire writing has first been written on this forum.
PS3: unrealist42 is a user over at http://www.philosophyforums.com.
PS4: This plan is updated today, 15.12.2010, despite my protest by not writing. However, don't interpret this as I'm beginning to write again (on my websites).
(From the original blog: http://www.angelfire.com/realm/t_daemon_lea/blogT/index.blog/1420534/the-israelpalestine-conflict-seeking-to-solve-it/.)
Original URL: http://blog.t-lea.net/#post97
2 further notes to the conflict:
1. note.
Note I side with Turkey over the verdict that "leaked copy of the United Nations report ... But the report also concludes that Israel's naval blockade of Gaza is legal - a move that has angered Turkey" because I think there's no convention (legal) or precedent for such a "legality" in international relations. On the other hand, I suspect "the Patient of Palestine" is suffering under "the Doctor, with split personality", overtly Israel and USA, and covertly, EU and Norway and Colombia shoved in by FDI (foreign direct investment, handler: USA) and "blackened Arab personality/corrupt money (sorry to suggest this). Solution: be aggressive on expressing frustration to friendly/charitable nations so that they can relay the political pressure, both media and diplomatic toward the _un_friendly nations! Good?
End of 1. note.
2. note.
On Israel and 900 new settlement-housing units planned in East Jerusalem: In light of the planning of 900 new housing units, I call for "cautious" sanctions against Israel on all sorts of signal products as Champagne and Parma-ham for their _consistent_ undermining of solutions with their neighbouring Palestinians. This should be discussed at UN. And even though this definite undermining of disciplinary reactions to Israel by USA takes place, I think the other nations are fully entitled to announce their dissatisfaction, thus _increasing_ global pressure against Israel for getting more serious in the conflict. The sanctions can be justified citing worldwide security concerns as incitement for conflict and the obvious idiot will to this incitement by the Israeli. This means that I hope these countries can come together and give these declarations against Israel despite the idiot vetoing by USA for making the full _other_ 6,5 - 7,0 Bn (Billion!) people heard and that _they_ (not USA) get to give this dearly welcomed voice to the Palestinians and their cause for a rightful state with some borders if not directly the 1967 borders to start with! Cheers!
This has also been posted United Nations Division for Palestinian Rights, http://www.facebook.com/UN.palestinianrights.
United Nations Division for Palestinian Rights
The Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People...
I'm sorry. The world population number on Wikip. said 7,4 Bn people. US Census says 6 937 326 780 _right now_!
Thus deducting some here and there making it 6,5 rather than 7 at any chance!
The Israelis should be well aware also of the possibility to build larger housing complexes and especially _taller_ so that NO people need to live on occupied territory/settlements obstructing peace with the Palestinians.
This comment of mine comes as reaction, slightly delayed, by the story brought by TV2 with "Publisert 04.04.2011 20.28", that is published on 04.04.2011.
The link: http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/utenriks/midtosten/israel-utvider-bosetning-paa-okkupert-land-3461347.html.
[Israel utvider bosetning på okkupert land]
End of 2. note.
Note: this is meant to continue until the conflict has ended. Thus, more is likely to be added!
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